From cyng at lamere.net Mon Feb 12 01:14:03 2001
From: cyng at lamere.net (How's Your Orange?)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:39 2003
Subject: dragon-digest Digest V2001 #24
Message-ID: <200102120614.BAA02988@mail.lamere.net>
Greetings, Mirumoto-san.
I truly would enjoy the reciting of your tale. If you wish to tell it
to all of us, all the better. If you do not, then it would do me honour
to have it told to me in private. My thanks.
-Tom Boyer
-Togashi Rik'Chk'Chok'Tak'Tik'Chuk'Tok'Tak'Tik'Tik'Tik
Dragon Clan Ratling Duelist * Tattooed * Double Chi * Samurai
Togashi Rik'Chk'Chok'Tak'Tik'Chuk'Tok'Tak'Tik'Tik'Tik may attach two
weapons.
While Togashi Rik'Chk'Chok'Tak'Tik'Chuk'Tok'Tak'Tik'Tik'Tik has two
weapons
attached, all of his Focus cards have their values increased by on
>Fellow Dragons, Every since that brief short story posted a while back I've
>been working on my very own. It includes about half-dozen or more of the
>people on the mailing list. right now most are just cameos but everyone
>will eventually play a larger roll. If you want me to post them for all to
>see let me know or if you just want a personal copy I can do that. The
>following Dragon Clan folks appear in the story thus far.
>
>Hitomi Pukku
>Dragon Clan Shugenja * Dragon in Black
>
>Kitsuki Jitsuma
>Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate
>
>Hida Okami
>Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison
>
>Mirumoto Kojiro
>Honorable Dragon Clan Samurai
>
>Hitomi Gofumin
>Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages
>
>And of course your truely
>Mirumoto Akihiro.
From JoshnMolly at aol.com Mon Feb 12 01:51:22 2001
From: JoshnMolly at aol.com (JoshnMolly@aol.com)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: dragon-digest Digest V2001 #24
Message-ID: <11.fb01fc0.27b8e1ea@aol.com>
I don't know what you are talking about (as far as the first story) but I
always want to know what I am doing. :-) I don't care how it is
disseminated.
Hitomi Gofumin--Josh Timmers
Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages
"In the name of the Moon, I will punish you!"--Hitomi Usagi
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From Dragncln1 at aol.com Mon Feb 12 03:11:50 2001
From: Dragncln1 at aol.com (Dragncln1@aol.com)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Kaagi in Honorable Dragon Tactician, version 1.2
Message-ID: <88.24a6c01.27b8f4c6@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/11/2001 10:13:52 PM Central Standard Time,
kagetora@thedragonclan.com writes:
>
> As an extension of this, if you use a card effect to give a >2C Samurai
> the
> Tactician trait (Fan of Command, Moment of Brilliance, etc) it will override
> Akodo Sensei.
>
>
This is what I was after. Thanks Joe.
Togashi Sutero
Experienced Unknown Samurai story
Samurai * Dahar Master * Tactician
Holder of the Ancestral Bamboo Stick of the Dragon
will join Lion or Monk for 2 less
"I hold upon My Life as a Dragon to Protect the Honor of My Clan, My Dyamo,
and My Family."
My Life, My sword, and My Honor will stand in the way of All that is tainted,
corrupt, or without Honor.
To Our Ancestors and to this Honored Assembly...This I pledge.
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From bbalbastre at multimania.com Mon Feb 12 09:36:48 2001
From: bbalbastre at multimania.com (Bruno BALBASTRE)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: (Story) Kitsuki Jitsuma
Message-ID: <2EB75137AB005D115AA60005B823024D@bbalbastre.multimania.com>
---- D?but du message original ----
Fellow Dragons, Every since that brief short story posted a while
back I've been working on my very own. ?It includes about
half-dozen or more of the people on the mailing list. ?right now
most are just cameos but everyone will eventually play a larger
roll. ?If you want me to post them for all to see let me know or if
you just want a personal copy I can do that. ?The following
Dragon Clan folks appear in the story thus far.
Kitsuki Jitsuma
Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate
---- Fin du message original ----
Hello,
As I'm french, Ido not understand completly your request.
If you want to used my name in a story there is no problem if you
send me the story.
If you want the personnal story of Kitsuki Jitsuma, it will be more
complex, I will summarize.
Kitsuki Jitsuma is now a rank 4 Kistuki magistrate and has lived
many advantures in the beden pass and the city of Ryoko Owari,
it has met the living darkness twice and still alive. He had
finished his mission in the City a month ago after finding a major
opium traffic and after the coming of a emerald legion in the City.
I'm back in the last step castle, for the winter 1122...
Now I will study tactics...
Kitsuki Jitsuma
Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate*Tactician*Samoura?
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From bbalbastre at multimania.com Mon Feb 12 11:14:16 2001
From: bbalbastre at multimania.com (Bruno BALBASTRE)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Référence: Polls of the future
Message-ID: <0F585137AB005D115AA60005B823024D@bbalbastre.multimania.com>
The next Dragon ancestor should be Shiryo no
a. Kitsuki
The first Dragon personality to gain experience in gold should be
d. Tamori Shaitung
The next item named after a Dragon personality should be:
d. Yasu's No-Dachi
A personality will be printed with a 5 somewhere on the card. ?
The personality's family name should be
b. Kitsuki (5 personal honor)
A Dragon personality not in the gold card list will receive an
experienced version in gold. ?That personality should be
b. Kitsuki Mizuochi
The next stronghold would be :
a. Kyuden Kitsuki : Mountain of the Truth (the last Step Castle
has been destroyed by the dragon ?)
Yes, I know I've added this question...
Kitsuki Jitsuma
Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate*Tactician*Samoura?
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From redlance at corplink.com.au Mon Feb 12 22:36:22 2001
From: redlance at corplink.com.au (William Amadei)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Polls of the future
In-Reply-To: <601092.981778650386.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com>
Message-ID: <000701c094e8$060b47e0$908aa8ca@marvin-robot>
Greetings Jeftuq,
I liked the idea of your survey...I don't post to the list ever...I read it
a lot though.
Here are my thoughts on the choices you've given. I'd give up all of these
choices to bring back our Kami though. Hitomi is formidable. Hoshi is
truly awesome. But Yokuni ROCKS! ...OK I know, I'm living in the past... :)
May the fortunes favour your quest brother.
Togashi Akayari
> The next Dragon ancestor should be Shiryo no
>
> c. Tamori
>
> The first Dragon personality to gain experience in gold should be
>
> e. screw experience, how about a Kitsuki a Togashi?!
> (I'm a bitter man) :)
I'm all for bringing back our Lord
>
> The next item named after a Dragon personality should be:
>
> a. Taki's Daisho
...or Kazaq's fluffy-bunny slippers
>
>
> A personality will be printed with a 5 somewhere on the card. The
> personality's family name should be
>
> e. Togashi (chi)
>
> A Dragon personality not in the gold card list will receive an experienced
> version in gold. That personality should be
>
> d. Mirumoto Songui
>
>
>
From bowman_rob at hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 15:09:02 2001
From: bowman_rob at hotmail.com (Rob Bowman)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: dragon-digest Digest V2001 #24
Message-ID:
Greetings,
Let us all see, please.
Take care,
Rob- Mirumoto Shokan
>From: "Jimmy_Neal Scott"
>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:32:08 -0500
>
>Fellow Dragons, Every since that brief short story posted a while back I've
>been working on my very own. It includes about half-dozen or more of the
>people on the mailing list. right now most are just cameos but everyone
>will eventually play a larger roll. If you want me to post them for all to
>see let me know or if you just want a personal copy I can do that. The
>following Dragon Clan folks appear in the story thus far.
>
>Hitomi Pukku
>Dragon Clan Shugenja * Dragon in Black
>
>Kitsuki Jitsuma
>Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate
>
>Hida Okami
>Crab Clan Orator * Dragon Clan Liaison
>
>Mirumoto Kojiro
>Honorable Dragon Clan Samurai
>
>Hitomi Gofumin
>Dragon Clan Historian in the Hub Villages
>
>And of course your truely
>Mirumoto Akihiro.
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>
>
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From JoshnMolly at aol.com Mon Feb 12 13:44:12 2001
From: JoshnMolly at aol.com (JoshnMolly@aol.com)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Origins of L5R
Message-ID: <6.1202b66a.27b988fc@aol.com>
D. J. Trindle posted his take on the origins of L5R on the L5RRPG Listserv.
I thought it was hilarious enough to repost it here for those not on the RPG
list.
Gofumin--Josh
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From frostylad at excite.com Tue Feb 13 08:18:44 2001
From: frostylad at excite.com (Jeff T.)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Polls of the Future Results
Message-ID: <28885178.982081124940.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com>
These are the results I have for my little poll. I got 13 responses, and
not everybody weighed in on every question, but that's okay. Because I
like to hear the sound of my own voice, I've added some analysis.
1. The first Dragon ancestor should be Shiryo no
Kitsuki
runner-up: Gaijutsu
Kaagi had two voices in support, and Tamori had one.
Sukune received no votes whatsoever. Not even a mention in anyone's
comments on why they voted. Kind of surprising for a family daimyo who's
been in our card pool since Imperial.
2. The first Dragon personality to gain experience in gold should be
screw experience, how about a Kitsuki or Togashi!?
Gee, I kind of threw that in as a joke, but apparently, a hefty number of
you related. Ukira and Shaitung only got 2 votes apiece, and Kagetora and
Chosai each got one.
3. The next item named after a Dragon personality should be
(tie)
Taki's Daisho
Yasu's No-Dachi
I had a feeling that these two, beloved by the clan but ignored by the
storyline, would get good support. Reju's Wakizashi and Hitomi's Armor
both made it on the board, and Yoshi's Robes scored a doughnut (serves the
filthy kolat right).
4. A Dragon Clan personality will be printed with a 5 somewhere on the card.
The personality should be from this family:
Kitsuki (5 personal honor)
runner-up: Togashi (5 somewhere else)
There was one vote for Tamori (5 chi), but none for Hitomi (5 force) or
Mirumoto (5 gold cost). I would have thought that a 5 gold personality in
the Gold format would be desirable, but I guess the rare 5 personal honor
strikes a louder chord.
5. A personality not in the Gold card pool will gain an experienced version.
That personality should be
Mirumoto Songui
runner-up: Kitsuki Mizuochi came in a close second.
Bujun and Shinseken landed a vote each, and Kazaq got stiffed. I suppose 0
personal honor doesn't go over well in a clan where Mirumoto and Kitsuki
seem to be the most popular families.
I'm guessing Songui beat out Mizuochi because his armor doesn't look like my
grandmother's apron.
Had Mizuochi won, the Kitsuki would have taken first in every question asked
in this poll. Fascinating, considering they're the second-smallest family
in the clan, and no Kitsuki has played a significant part in any story.
Now, they may have done well because I chose the other options poorly, but I
think it's more likely that they're very popular and terribly
underrepresented.
Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask about what the next Dragon sensei
should be. Any suggestions?
-Hitomi Jeftuq
Dragon Clan Naga
"We will not aid you. You have to prove yourself worthy before you can ask
for the favors our father once claimed." -Moto Tsume
"Then get out of my way." -Hitomi
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From jnscott at hotmail.com Tue Feb 13 12:33:33 2001
From: jnscott at hotmail.com (Jimmy_Neal Scott)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: The Story: Debts
Message-ID:
This is merely the first part. I'm going to try and have at the very least
a weekly installment until the conclusion. I will post more as I finish
them Parts 1 & 2 are done, I started part 3 last night and may have it
finished in a few days.
Debts
Mirumoto Akihiro made his way into the room as painlessly as he could, which
was pointless. He stood in the back corner where he had been told
messengers were to wait. The room was not as splendid as he imagined it
would be. Maps of the Dragon lands, past and present hung on the walls. A
large table dominated the center of the room and around it crowded the clan
Daimyos, generals, samurai, shugenja and a few monks. Briefly he scanned
the room to see if he knew any of the other faces.
Sitting in a far corned hunched over his scrolls and inkwells sat Hitomi
Gofumin, the tattooed historian of the Hub Villages. He came to the Togashi
bastion to chronicle the effects of the war, especially since his home had
become a ruins because of the war. His hands moved like lightning as he
deftly and accurately recorded the meeting.
Hitomi Pukku, stood the corner speaking with a fellow shugenja he believed
was none other than Tamori Chosai. Hitomi Pukku’s black robes contrasted
sharply with the gold and green of Chosai-san’s. Akihiro knew little of the
magic the shugenja wielded, but he did know of their reputations. Chosai
was well known throughout the clan for his skill and wisdom. Pukku’s fame
was only beginning to grow.
Kitsuki Jitsuma stood next to the table, scrolls in hand, waiting his turn
to speak with Lord Hoshi. Undoubtedly he carried news from the imperial
court, in all likelihood is would not be good. His face was somber and he
looked tired. Few understood the Dragon and at the imperial court where
emotions, rumor and finger pointing could make or break a samurai or even a
clan, an even minded, fair judgment was ignored and even ridiculed. The
Kitsuki knew this well.
Across the room a small group of Scorpion emissaries stood observing the
meeting, their crimson and black kimonos blending in with the shadows. One
was an older man, obviously a samurai by his stance and bearing. His mask
was crimson silk, but on it was embroidered a highly ornate scorpion, gilded
in gold. He must have held some important position in the clan to be so
ostentatious. The second figure was also swathed in black and crimson, only
his eyes showed from his garments. He carried himself as a monk would,
finding a way to relax even while standing, perhaps he was even a ninja.
The remaining two were women, attractive from what he could tell,
considering that masks hid most of their faces. One possessed long flowing
hair, tied in a braid that hung down the front of her kimono. The second
woman looked dangerous just standing there. She held her yumi in one hand
and rested her other on the hilt of her sword. Briefly their eyes meet and
she looked him up and down. Akihiro bowed ever so slightly, gritting his
teeth at the pain the movement brought. She tilted her head in polite
response, bowing would have been difficult in the cramped quarters, and then
looked back at the arguing generals.
Lord Hoshi, the daimyo of the Dragon Clan dominated the room. The half-man,
half-dragon champion stood in silence as he listened to the two generals
discussing the next plan of attack. Mirumoto Tokeru stood shaking his head
at whole affair. Briefly his eyes meet with Lord Hoshi’s and they seemed to
be in agreement that this was getting nowhere.
“Perhaps we should table this until we have heard from our messengers.”
Lord Hoshi’s voice boomed, drowning out both generals. Both meet paused,
caught off guard by the suddenness of the announcement. Quickly they bowed
and took up their positions in the room, opposite each other interestingly
enough.
“Jitsuma-san, what news do you bring from the court?” Lord Hoshi returned
to his resting place. His enigmatic wife, Hoshi Easai, sitting at his side.
Jitsuma-san bowed deeply.
“My Lord, it is with great regret that I must inform you that the imperial
court still refuses to hear or position. The Lion and Phoenix alliance has
sufficient influence to prevent even the most humble of discussions on the
subject. The Phoenix have even gone so far to suggest our banishment from
the empire, but luckily no one but their own will even listen to the
suggestion. Because of the Crane’s position they have sided with the Lion
and Phoenix. They hope to gain allies in their war with the Crab by
currying favor with the other clans.”
“What of the Crab, what have we heard form them?”
“My lord, there are few Crab remaining at the court, many have been recalled
to defend their homeland or stand on the wall. The honorable Hida Okami was
a strong voice in our defense but he was recently recalled to the Hida
lands, leaving behind a less experienced Samurai to deal with the troubles
of the court. He did express regret at not having enough influence for our
clan in this matter I to him for our failure to aid him.”
“Have our messengers returned from Unicorn and Mantis?” Lord Hoshi’s eyes
scanned the room.
Mirumoto Kojiro stepped from behind several of the higher cast samurai. He
bowed deeply and spoke without standing up. “My lord, The Unicorn Daimyo
wishes to remain neutral for the time being, but they he would entertain
agreements of trade with us. Having permission from him I spoke to the
Shinjo Daimyo on the second matter and he has agreed to our offer to
purchase some of their stallions.” He presented the scroll to lord Hoshi.
A Lieutenant took the scroll from Kojiro and presented it to lord Hoshi.
The room was silent as he read the unicorn proposal.
“These term are acceptable.” Lord Hoshi handed the scroll to Gofumin-san so
that he could transcribe the message into the histories. “Accompany a
scribe and return to the Unicorn with the payment.” Kojiro bowed and backed
out of the room to wait for the scribe.
Several other samurai reported to Lord Hoshi, each one with a different
report. Akihiro tried to rest his wounded leg to no avail. He kept his
left arm tucked behind him for fear that someone would see and arrows in his
chest and leg ached with every beat of his heart. He had lost enough blood
to make him weak, but not enough for him to fail in his duty. He had lost
his concentration when he realized that all eyes had turned to him. One of
the Generals’ looked perturbed at the hesitation. Quickly Akihiro stepped
forward.
“My Lord, General Mirumoto Yoshi wishes to inform you that the Valley of
Three Rivers has held against the might of our enemies.” Akihiro raised one
hand to present the Generals records to the Daimyo. The busy lieutenant
scurried over to collect it. From the corner of his eye Akihiro saw the
Scorpion leader whispering into Tokeru’s ear.
The lieutenant bowed slightly and plucked the scroll from his hand. As
Akihiro was backing away from the assembly Tokeru stepped forward.
“Samurai, let me see your hands.”
All eyes went from Tokeru to Akihiro. Akihiro’s heart froze for a moment.
As commanded he raised both his hands for everyone to see. The left hand
and arm was wrapped in a green cloth, similar in color to his clothing, but
stained deep with blood. He had long since discarded the useless arm guard.
“I did not know that General Yoshi-san sent wounded men as messengers?”
“He does not honorable Tokeru-san.”
“Then why are you here wounded?’ Lord Hoshi responded, beating Tokeru to
the question.
Akihiro bowed. “My lord. As I made my way here to deliver the general’s
message I happened upon a Lion scouting party by accident. I acquired these
wounds from them.”
“How many were there?” One General stepped forward looking at the map.
“Four, sir”
“Four? And you only have those wounds to show for it? Did you push forward
on your messenger duties?” The second, more obnoxious general stepped
forward, standing beside Tokeru. Akihiro took slight offense to the
comment, but since he was very much a junior samurai and far from the status
of the general he let it pass. Tokeru however did seem to take offense,
showing it visibly in his face and turning slightly towards the general.
“No sir. I fought the scouting party. It is my duty to defend my homeland
against any invaders, no matter what the numbers may be”
The general’s hand moved to rest upon his sword. Tokeru and the other
general smiled ever so slightly at the rebuttal.
“Then explain how you defeat a force of superior numbers.”
Akihiro bowed as best he could as a surge of pain rippled though him. “Hai.
I was riding fast to the castle when I came over the crest of a hill. As
I crested the top, I spotted four men crouched just on the other side. I
recognized them immediately as Lion and directed my horse towards them. Two
fired arrows as the others drew their swords. Both arrows found their mark
in my Horses. While unfortunate for myself and fatal to my horse, it proved
to be equally fatal to one of the lion. My horse went wild in pain and
crashed into the men. One of them was killed under my horse as I was thrown
free. I was fortunate enough to keep my bearings and I closed to combat
them. I managed to kill two of them but the fourth escaped. I was unable
to follow with any speed.”
“And this is because of your wounds?” The obnoxious general snorted
“Hai. The last man fired an arrow that struck me in the leg as I chased
him. I would never have been able to catch him sir. I was fortunate that
several ashigaru came along to help me later. Without their assistance I
would not be here.”
“Show me where you fought them.” The first, quite general motioned him over
to the map. “As best as you can remember.”
Akihiro shuffled over to the large table and looked over the map of the
current Dragon lands. He traced his route from the Valley of Three Rivers
to where he thought the fight had taken place. “I believe it to be here
sir.”
“I take it the bodies are there?” The obnoxious general chimed in again.
“I did my best to give them an honorable placement. I would not wish their
ancestors to be angered at my lack of respect.”
Men crowded around the table again, each one wearing a brooding expression
on their faces.
“The battles outcome is a good news, but a Lion scouting party that far
inside our territory is a source of concern.” The quite general patted
Akihiro on the shoulder, sending waves of pain through his body and causing
his knees to buckle. A samurai caught him before he fell.
“Have someone tend to his wounds.” The quite general spoke out
Akihiro stood on his own again, but he was flanked by the samurai that
caught him and a monk that he had not noticed before. Akihiro bowed before
leaving and spied the Scorpion emissary speaking to Lord Hoshi.
As the three made their way out, the female Scorpion samurai joined them.
The attending samurai raised a single eyebrow at her.
“I was sent to assist you in your healing efforts as I am skilled in those
areas.”
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Mirumoto Akihiro
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From Kyn1000 at aol.com Tue Feb 13 15:57:38 2001
From: Kyn1000 at aol.com (Kyn1000@aol.com)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Polls of the Future Results
Message-ID:
Hitomi Sensei, natch.
Kitsuki Kyn
Dragon Clan Ghola * Token Idiot
> Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask about what the next Dragon sensei
> should be.
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From James.Repine at transamerica.com Tue Feb 13 15:13:05 2001
From: James.Repine at transamerica.com (Repine, James)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Polls of the Future Results
Message-ID: <516502093CADD111B6F400805FE68B57063C3423@treic_dal34.transamerica.com>
Hitomi Sensei
-1/0/+2
Limited: Up to 5 times, bow your stronghold and one gold producing holding.
Get any one card from you fate deck and put it in your hand or any one card
from your dynasty deck, placing it face up in your rightmost province.
Events
revealed in the way do not resolve until your next events phase.
Taki Sensei
0/0/0
All the Samurai in your deck with a 3 or higher chi gain the ability to
attach
two weapons.
Sukune Sensei
0/0/0
All your personalities gain the ability to bow to return to your fief from a
battle.
Those are ones I submitted some time ago.....
Hitomi Yamesh
Dragon Clan Tattooed Jedi Master
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyn1000@aol.com [mailto:Kyn1000@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:46 PM
To: dragon@michonline.com
Subject: Re: Polls of the Future Results
Hitomi Sensei, natch.
Kitsuki Kyn
Dragon Clan Ghola * Token Idiot
Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask about what the next Dragon sensei
should be. Any suggestions?
From loki at bu.edu Tue Feb 13 21:18:15 2001
From: loki at bu.edu (Loki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: [thepapertiger] Grand Prix Boston - Finalizing Our Plans (fwd)
Message-ID:
Greetings all,
I just thought I'd forward this to the list, in case anyone was
going to be in the Boston area and would be interested in attending our
local store's tournament. Sorry to spam those of you with no interest or
availabilty.
Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 18:26:32 -0000
From: lund_mart@bentley.edu
Reply-To: thepapertiger@yahoogroups.com
To: thepapertiger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [thepapertiger] Grand Prix Boston - Finalizing Our Plans
OK, I've got a tentative design for the GP Boston tournament.
Thursday will be the final day for modification and changes as I
hopefully get to review this with Peter and anyone else who wants to
chime in. I'm most concerned with whether or not my idea for a start-
time is reasonable. I also want some info from people on our
Here's what I have so far:
Grand Prix Boston – L5R Daisho Tournament
When: February 25, 2001 Sign-ups begin at 10:00 AM, tournament begins
at 11:00AM
Where: Grand Prix Boston, held at The Castle at Park Plaza, directly
across from Boston's historic Park Plaza Hotel. For directions,
please check out:
http://www.yourmovegames.com/gp_boston/directions.html
Format: Open
Entry Fee: $20.00 per person, payable on location.
First Prize is a display quality Daisho (Katana and Wakizashi).
Second Prize is a display quality Katana.
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From MechWar13 at aol.com Tue Feb 13 21:24:15 2001
From: MechWar13 at aol.com (MechWar13@aol.com)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:40 2003
Subject: Polls of the Future Results
Message-ID:
In a message dated 2/13/01 11:20:02 AM, frostylad@excite.com writes:
<<
Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask about what the next Dragon sensei
should be. Any suggestions?
>>
Hitomi Sensei
From bbalbastre at multimania.com Wed Feb 14 10:00:50 2001
From: bbalbastre at multimania.com (Bruno BALBASTRE)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Référence: Polls of the Future Results
Message-ID: <15E225D493205D115A360005B8ACC242@bbalbastre.multimania.com>
---- D?but du message original ----
Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask about what the next
Dragon sensei
should be. ? Any suggestions?
---- Fin du message original ----
By heart I say Kaagi Sense?.
By reason Hitomi sense?
Kitsuki Jitsuma
Dragon Clan Imperial Magistrate
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From loki at bu.edu Wed Feb 14 14:37:42 2001
From: loki at bu.edu (Loki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01 tourney!
In-Reply-To: <516502093CADD111B6F400805FE68B57063C3423@treic_dal34.transamerica.com>
Message-ID:
Brothers,
Greetings. I am planning in participating in Boston's L5R Grand Prix
weekend tournament on the 25th. I will be playing my favored clan. the
Dragon. The problem is, I've never been to a tournament before. I could
use some advice for play tips against various styles. I'm also posting a
theoretical decklist here, to see what feedback I can get.
Well, I'll cut straight to the chase, that being the decklist.
Feedback appreciated, the more detailed the better.
SH: Iron Mountain
Sensei: ??
I've been having the damndest time choosing a sensei. Hantei is great for
metagame, but I really fear my opponent packing a Hantei as well and
losing 2 of my best cards possibly. Toshimoko is good and all, but only
works for the dwindling % of my deck that is Samurai, and moreover
immediately tips off my opponent as to what he should Hantei if he plays
that sensei. I've been thinking of experimenting with Uona, save that it
completely destroys my ability to search my deck for cards. Kaede is also
out of the question, as I'm angling for an honor victory.
Comments?
Dynasty Deck:
=============
Events:
1x Imperial Gift
1x Inheritance
1x Birth of the Sword
1x Test of Stone
I consider the first two a given in a tournament deck, and the third is
excellent. Test of stone is there to give me one more duel I don't need
to burn fate cards for.
I've also considered packing Wisdom Gained and/or Revering the Past (as I
like my Shiryo no Togashi), but I'm not sure how well they'd help the deck
and if they'd be worth the space.
Personalities:
3x Togashi Shinseken
3x Agasha Gennai
3x Togashi Yoshi
3x Togashi Mio
3x Mirumoto Daini
1x The Hooded Ronin
1x Togashi Hoshi EXP 2
Well, my comments...I need cheap shugenja for Wind's Truth and the spells
I'm packing, so I think 3 Shinseken's are necessary (BTW-anyone got any?
I don't... could use another Mio too...). Gennai is there for his obscene
fate cylcing power, and
Yoshi is the obvious Deulling enhancer. I chose Togashi Mio over some of
the other Samurai available since I think that his reaction makes him VERY
useful for defense in a dueller, since if I want to start some duels,
very often my opponent will send my people home. Having one more chance
to start one will make this deck more robust, I think. Daini is self
explanatory, he's Daini. I've decided to try and include a few duel
starters, so I tossed in the Hooded Ronin, his duelling power seems like a
wonderful thing (BTW-anybody play with him? How'd he work out?),
especially since I'm gonna be going for honor victories-now I just need
to go get a copy of him. Togashi Hoshi is
the heavy hitter, the guy who hopefully comes out to play when the chips
are down.
Holdings:
3x Gold Mine
3x Jade Works
3x Small Farm
3x Merchant Caravan
2x Sanctified Temple
1x Charter of the Dragon Clan
2x Hiruma Dojo
17 gold producers...I tend to favor them heavily, as I like to have lots
of gold to spend on full-cost personalities and spells. BTW-anyone have
some Hiruma
Dojo's they could donate?. I'm considering also including a Fortress of
the Dragonfly or three...
Regions:
????
I'm thinking of trying to squeeze in a Sorrow's path or two, and a Golden
Sun Plain if I can get one somehow...
Right now I'm at 38 cards, waiting to figure out if I add various things,
such as Fortresses or GSP/Sorrow's Path. Has anyone ever tried playing
Ancient Sages or Historians? Comments?
FATE DECK:
==========
3x Iaijutsu Duel
3x Iaijutsu Challenge
3x For The Empire/Iaijutsu Art**
I'm Experimenting with newer duelling ideas...I'd like to try using For
The Empire, especially since it brings up my focus values up. OTOH, it's
conditions are VERY specific. I was thinking I'd toss a copy or 3 of Jama
Suru in the dynasty deck if I did, to make sure I could taint people and
then For the Empire them. Suru also makes the Hooded Ronin's challenge
unrefusable by tainting the target. Opinions?
The only thing I'm concerned about is Iai duel being my only in-battle
fate-card based duel...perhaps I should consider C1@aT? But it's focus is
so low...
3x Pressure
I'm of mixed feelings on this card, but I think it's REALLY handy for
honor running duellers, and it has a decent (3) focus. I need to win
duels to gain honor if I want to be competitive. Then again, given the
duel refusal punishers, maybe I'm wrong? However, its mucho reactive
nature leaves me leery....
3x Force of Will
3x Walking the Way
3x The Wind's Truth
FoW can kill any dishonored or really dishonorable personality..what more
needs be said? Killer focus value too. Just the fact I have them in the
deck makes me think I should pack Iai art instead of For The Empire...
Walking the Way is there, of course, to fetch all that good stuff like the
ring of void and the unique items. Or even a duel if my hand is junk.
And what Honor deck worth it's salt wouldn't pack TWT?
3x Imperial Edicts
I like this card...versatile, and killer focus. Only downside is the part
about discarding the favor. Which I plan on controlling, so I think it's
OK. Only thing is, right now it's my only defense, I think I could use
more...
1x Ring of Void
1x Ring of Earth
1x Ring of Air
I only included the 3 I figured I could play easily, and barring playing,
they all have 4 focus. RoV+Gennai is a wonderful thing, methinks.
3x Superior Tactics
My only real battle card, which worries me. I'm seeing a hole in my
defenses against speed military style decks...
1x Bitter
1x Judgement
1x Mirumoto Wakizashi
1x The 12th Black Scroll
The first two will let me kill any poor sod who gets dishonored, the third
gives me honor and a handy defensive abilty. The last is the pen-ultimate
Tac-Nuke. All great focus, too!
3x Lessons of Honor
The More I read this card, the more I like it. It helps my victory while
hindering my opponent in many cases...focus is only 2, but I think it
still warrants inclusion.
1x Sensei
That's 38 cards...here's what I'm "thinking" of including:
3x Secrets on the Wind
To dishonor people so I can mow them down with Judgement/Bitter
1x Mirumoto House Guard
To get yet another battle duel...4 Focus, too!
1x Shiryo no Togashi
Unrefusable Challenges good...
Obviously I can't toss in ALL that. Well, I gues I could, since I don't
count the sensei as part of my 40. That would put me at 42 if I did.
I'm thinking my deck might have a SERIOUS weakness against speed military
and the like...what do you all think? Especially those who've played
similar decks at tournies... Or would my out of-battle PK engine
compensate? Those with experience, please enlighten me.
Thanks a lot, and I hope I can do well with everyone's help.
Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
From Daryl.Gubler at med.va.gov Wed Feb 14 15:28:26 2001
From: Daryl.Gubler at med.va.gov (Gubler, Daryl L.)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
Message-ID:
Dragon Tattooed Devastation
Stronghold: Iron Mountain
Dynasty (40 cards)
Personalities (28)
Hitomi Iyojin x3 (-/5/1)
Hitomi Akuai x3 (-/6/0)
Hitomi Kazaq x3 (-/6/0)
Hitomi Dajan x3 (0/6/1)
Hitomi Nakuso x3 (-/5/1)
Hitomi Kobai x3 (-/4/1)
Togashi Senai x3 (0/5/2)
Agasha Gennai x3 (0/6/2)
Mirumoto Daini x3 (-/5/3)
Hitomi Reju xp. (0/6/1)
Holdings (9)
Black Market x3
Small Farms x3
Merchant Caravan x3
Events (3)
Inheritance
Troll Raiders
Unexpected Allies
Fate (40)
Senseis (1)
Otomo Sensei
Actions (39)
Arrowroot Tattoo x3
Crane Tattoo x3
Dragon Tattoo x3
Dragonfly Tattoo x3
Mountain Tattoo x3
Crow Tattoo x3
Hummingbird Tattoo x3
Crab Tattoo x3
Charge x3
Destiny Has No Secrets x3
Frenzy x3
Tattoo Madness x3
Superior Tactics x3
From ltwyman at osf1.gmu.edu Wed Feb 14 17:04:03 2001
From: ltwyman at osf1.gmu.edu (Lucas Twyman)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01
tourney!
In-Reply-To:
References: <516502093CADD111B6F400805FE68B57063C3423@treic_dal34.transamerica.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010214163303.00acfb00@mail.gmu.edu>
At 02:37 PM 2/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Brothers,
> Greetings. I am planning in participating in Boston's L5R Grand Prix
>weekend tournament on the 25th. I will be playing my favored clan. the
>Dragon. The problem is, I've never been to a tournament before. I could
>use some advice for play tips against various styles. I'm also posting a
>theoretical decklist here, to see what feedback I can get.
>
>Well, I'll cut straight to the chase, that being the decklist.
>Feedback appreciated, the more detailed the better.
>
>SH: Iron Mountain
>Sensei: ??
>
><metagame, but I really fear my opponent packing a Hantei as well and
>losing 2 of my best cards possibly. Toshimoko is good and all, but only
>works for the dwindling % of my deck that is Samurai, and moreover
>immediately tips off my opponent as to what he should Hantei if he plays
>that sensei. I've been thinking of experimenting with Uona, save that it
>completely destroys my ability to search my deck for cards. Kaede is also
>out of the question, as I'm angling for an honor victory.
>Comments?>>
I'd use Hantei; as a dueller, you need to stop Sneaks from blitz decks or
you're screwed. I've had great, great results with Uona, since I don't use
Walking the Way. You can still use Banish under it, IIRC.
Try experimenting with 2 senseis. You can always toss the extra to Gennai
or Caravans if it comes up.
><=============
>Events:
>1x Imperial Gift
>1x Inheritance
>1x Birth of the Sword
>1x Test of Stone>>
Drop the Test of Stone for Kolat Duplicate. The Dupe has saved my rear end
far, far too many times to count, even if it does have "Kolat" in its name.
><1x The Hooded Ronin>>
Good personality mix; I love one big guy in a dueler, and Hoshi is the best
we have. I've been trying to successfully use the Ronin since I first
started playing (in FK), and have yet to have him be useful. Opponents will
just refuse, and Shadowlands has Moetechi to cut the poor ronin down.
You *NEED* Yuyake. I know all the drawbacks -- 2 Chi, 2HR can't come out
after a breach, blah, blah. I've come to the decision that Yuyake ranks up
there with Daini. He has saved far, far too many provinces for me to count,
and almost singlehandedly won me the finals at my local Test. A virtual 4F
on defense for 4G, plus 2 honor off the box, make him straight-up
incredible. He is that good.
I've learned to love Tamori Chosai. He's great with Secrets on the Wind,
and another 4C guy is good for duels.
><3x Gold Mine
>3x Jade Works
>3x Small Farm
>3x Merchant Caravan
>2x Sanctified Temple
>1x Charter of the Dragon Clan
>2x Hiruma Dojo>>
I like lots of holdings, too. I'm a bit weird, so I'll venture to say use
Crevasses instead of Hirumas. They fit much better into your gold scheme,
even without stupid fetching tricks.
>Regions:
>????
>
>I'm thinking of trying to squeeze in a Sorrow's path or two, and a Golden
>Sun Plain if I can get one somehow...
>
><such as Fortresses or GSP/Sorrow's Path. Has anyone ever tried playing
>Ancient Sages or Historians? Comments?>>
Ancient Sages & Historians -- bleh. Worthless duel support. Put in GSP if
you can get it, Sorrow's Paths or more personalities (yuyake!) if you can't.
><<3x For The Empire/Iaijutsu Art**
>
>I'm Experimenting with newer duelling ideas...I'd like to try using For
>The Empire, especially since it brings up my focus values up. OTOH, it's
>conditions are VERY specific. I was thinking I'd toss a copy or 3 of Jama
>Suru in the dynasty deck if I did, to make sure I could taint people and
>then For the Empire them. Suru also makes the Hooded Ronin's challenge
>unrefusable by tainting the target. Opinions? ??>>
If you use For the Empire, don't stress about it. Suru will only dilute
your deck. If you use Arts, be sure to also include Test of Honor and Force
of Will to nuke the guys after they're dishonored.
You stress way, way too much about focus values. Just keep 'em reasonably
high and you'll have no problem winning duels against most opponents,
especially with Yoshi.
><<3x Pressure
>I'm of mixed feelings on this card, but I think it's REALLY handy for
>honor running duellers, and it has a decent (3) focus. I need to win
>duels to gain honor if I want to be competitive. Then again, given the
>duel refusal punishers, maybe I'm wrong? However, its mucho reactive
>nature leaves me leery....>>
I don't have mixed feelings: Drop it. If you see a ton of Kuro Sensei
users, just use Yasu in the Dynasty. Otherwise, Test of Honor (kills just
as well as Pressure+Duel) or Evil Portents (a bit pricy) are straight-up
better.
>3x Force of Will
Gooood. My favorite card in the game.
> >>3x Imperial Edicts
>I like this card...versatile, and killer focus. Only downside is the part
>about discarding the favor. Which I plan on controlling, so I think it's
>OK. Only thing is, right now it's my only defense, I think I could use
>more...<<
Agreed. Keep it simple -- Block Supply Lines, In Search of the Future, or
some other high-focus defense.
>1x Ring of Air
>
>I only included the 3 I figured I could play easily, and barring playing,
>they all have 4 focus. RoV+Gennai is a wonderful thing, methinks.
RoA might be kinda hard to get out.
><<3x Superior Tactics
>
>My only real battle card, which worries me. I'm seeing a hole in my
>defenses against speed military style decks...>>
Yuyake helps a ton, as would BSL.
> >>1x Bitter
>1x Judgement
>1x Mirumoto Wakizashi
>1x The 12th Black Scroll
>
>The first two will let me kill any poor sod who gets dishonored, the third
>gives me honor and a handy defensive abilty. The last is the pen-ultimate
>Tac-Nuke. All great focus, too!>>
If you have any horde players around, drop the Wakizashi, put in the Golden
Obi. It's a lot stronger than it first looks, and with it Daini or Mio can
take on a whole horde army.
> >>3x Lessons of Honor
>The More I read this card, the more I like it. It helps my victory while
>hindering my opponent in many cases...focus is only 2, but I think it
>still warrants inclusion.>>
Do you have enough guys to bow and use it?
>1x Sensei
>
>That's 38 cards...here's what I'm "thinking" of including:
>
>3x Secrets on the Wind
>To dishonor people so I can mow them down with Judgement/Bitter
Drop the number to 2, but put 'em in. The PK engine they creat with
Judgement, Bitter, FoW, and Test of Honor is incredible. At the sword
tournament this weekend in VA, I used them and Sagoten to gain 43 honor in
6 turns, and made my Phoenix opponent lose 24 honor, knocking them back
from 40 4 times (of course, they had a Pekkle in play, and I sent 'em a His
Most Favored honor loss, but, hey, they used the favor to prevent half my
losses anyway).
> >>I'm thinking my deck might have a SERIOUS weakness against speed military
>and the like...what do you all think? Especially those who've played
>similar decks at tournies... Or would my out of-battle PK engine
>compensate? Those with experience, please enlighten me.
>Thanks a lot, and I hope I can do well with everyone's help.>>
The PK-engine usually doesn't kick in until turn 4 or 5. You're going to
lose against a good FORD 9 times out of 10, even with more defense, but you
need some more defense against other speed-military.
>Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
>Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
Kitsuki Iyoku
Dragon Clan Villain - Magistrate - Samurai
Supporter of the Scorpion
"From Bayushi we learned of the lies hidden in truth;
From Togashi we learned of the truth hidden in lies."
From mkd8 at cornell.edu Wed Feb 14 19:16:05 2001
From: mkd8 at cornell.edu (Matt Dalen)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Duelling/Tactician Deck for Review
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010214190525.00c36ea0@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu>
I was fooling around with akodo sensei one day, and decided to throw
together a dragon akodo dueller. So far it's done surprisingly well, but I
was hoping to get some advice from the list. Here's the Decklist:
Stronghold: Iron Mountain
Sensei: Akodo Sensei
Dynasty: 44 cards (should probably try to get it down to 40)
Agasha Gennai x3
Asako Sagoten x3
Hitomi Reju exp 1
Hitomi exp 3
Mirumoto Daini x3
Mirumoto Taki x3
Mirumoto Uso x3
Togashi Yoshi x3
Charter of the Dragon Clan
Gold Mine x3
Jade Works x3
Large Farm x3
Merchant Caravan x3
Sanctified Temple x3
Small Farm x3
Campsite
Golden Sun Plain
Chrysanthemum Festival
Imperial Gift
Inheritance
Fate Deck: (44 cards, should probably be thinned down to 40)
A Chance Meeting x2
Iaijutsu Art x3
Iaijutsu Challenge x3
Iaijutsu Duel x3
Luring Tactics x3
Superior Strategist x3
Superior Tactics x3
Tactical Maneuvers x3
The Sun Returns x2
The Wind's Truth x3
White Shore Plain x3
Ancestral Sword of the Dragon Clan
Bitter
Kitsuki Kaagi's Journal
Lord Moon's Bones
Mirumoto's "Niten"
Tetsubo x2
The 12th Black Scroll
Togashi's Daisho
Ashigaru x3
Mirumoto House Guard
The only major problem that I've found is that usually I tend to throw all
of the items on one guy, who promptly gets Kolat somethinged (Duped,
Assassined, Mastered, etc). That's probably a problem with my play style,
though. Thanks in advance for any help that I may get.
From ltwyman at osf1.gmu.edu Wed Feb 14 20:01:58 2001
From: ltwyman at osf1.gmu.edu (Lucas Twyman)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010214194618.00acceb0@mail.gmu.edu>
At 03:28 PM 2/14/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Dragon Tattooed Devastation
>Stronghold: Iron Mountain
>
>Dynasty (40 cards)
> > Hitomi Reju xp. (0/6/1)
Reju's stats aren't good enough to warrant inclusion.
> > Holdings (9)
> >
> > Black Market x3
Corrupt Gold Mines are far superior, even if they are, well, Corrupt.
A gold mine or two might also be good, 'cause it can bring some
personalities out with a single holding.
> > Unexpected Allies
UA is iffy, but you do have lots of personalities...
> >Fate (40)
> > Senseis (1)
> > Otomo Sensei
Kaede is prolly better, as it allows you to dump your fate hand and
immediately fill it up again. You could run both... or use Kyuden Hitomi.
> > Actions (39)
> > Arrowroot Tattoo x3
Not worth including 3. Not very useful for anything but the "Tattoo" on
senai -- Feign Death is far, far superior.
> > Crane Tattoo x3
Same here. They don't directly contribute towards your goal: taking
provinces. In fact, they sometimes hinder it, by keeping you from
targetting your own guys with force bonuses.
> Crow Tattoo x3
Very little use. Probably no more than two.
Potential replacements: Berserkers (A must)
Tattooed Men
Bandit Gang
Light Infantry (Or other holding)
Flee the Darkness (you have the Shugenja)
The Great Silence (Tattoos become printed on your guys)
Kitsuki Iyoku
From loki at bu.edu Wed Feb 14 20:18:36 2001
From: loki at bu.edu (Loki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01 tourney!
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010214163303.00acfb00@mail.gmu.edu>
Message-ID:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Lucas Twyman wrote:
> At 02:37 PM 2/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Brothers,
> > Greetings. I am planning in participating in Boston's L5R Grand Prix
> >weekend tournament on the 25th. I will be playing my favored clan. the
> >Dragon. The problem is, I've never been to a tournament before. I could
> >use some advice for play tips against various styles. I'm also posting a
> >theoretical decklist here, to see what feedback I can get.
> >
> >Well, I'll cut straight to the chase, that being the decklist.
> >Feedback appreciated, the more detailed the better.
> >
> >SH: Iron Mountain
> >Sensei: ??
> >
> >< >metagame, but I really fear my opponent packing a Hantei as well and
> >losing 2 of my best cards possibly. Toshimoko is good and all, but only
> >works for the dwindling % of my deck that is Samurai, and moreover
> >immediately tips off my opponent as to what he should Hantei if he plays
> >that sensei. I've been thinking of experimenting with Uona, save that it
> >completely destroys my ability to search my deck for cards. Kaede is also
> >out of the question, as I'm angling for an honor victory.
> >Comments?>>
>
> I'd use Hantei; as a dueller, you need to stop Sneaks from blitz decks or
> you're screwed. I've had great, great results with Uona, since I don't use
> Walking the Way. You can still use Banish under it, IIRC.
>
> Try experimenting with 2 senseis. You can always toss the extra to Gennai
> or Caravans if it comes up.
Mmm...I'll probably go with Hantei then...I don't have any Banish. I'm a
comparitive newbie, and my card stock is WEAK(read: small).
> >< >=============
> >Events:
> >1x Imperial Gift
> >1x Inheritance
> >1x Birth of the Sword
> >1x Test of Stone>>
>
> Drop the Test of Stone for Kolat Duplicate. The Dupe has saved my rear end
> far, far too many times to count, even if it does have "Kolat" in its name.
Pah. I care not for whether or not a card has Kolat in its title. I'll
have to see if I can get one.
> >< >1x The Hooded Ronin>>
>
> Good personality mix; I love one big guy in a dueler, and Hoshi is the best
> we have. I've been trying to successfully use the Ronin since I first
> started playing (in FK), and have yet to have him be useful. Opponents will
> just refuse, and Shadowlands has Moetechi to cut the poor ronin down.
True. Then, a refusal DOES make for one dishonored personality a turn.
> You *NEED* Yuyake. I know all the drawbacks -- 2 Chi, 2HR can't come out
> after a breach, blah, blah. I've come to the decision that Yuyake ranks up
> there with Daini. He has saved far, far too many provinces for me to count,
> and almost singlehandedly won me the finals at my local Test. A virtual 4F
> on defense for 4G, plus 2 honor off the box, make him straight-up
> incredible. He is that good.
Well, I'll give the boy a try in my test runs. My dynasty deck is a
little thin now, so I'll just toss him in. You ever experiment with
Yuyake + Be The Mountain? Good, bad?
> I've learned to love Tamori Chosai. He's great with Secrets on the Wind,
> and another 4C guy is good for duels.
You think it'd bear replacing Shinseken with him? I may give that a try.
Drops my current first for honor turn peep, but if I add 3 Yuyakes,
I won't really notice.
> >< >3x Gold Mine
> >3x Jade Works
> >3x Small Farm
> >3x Merchant Caravan
> >2x Sanctified Temple
> >1x Charter of the Dragon Clan
> >2x Hiruma Dojo>>
>
> I like lots of holdings, too. I'm a bit weird, so I'll venture to say use
> Crevasses instead of Hirumas. They fit much better into your gold scheme,
> even without stupid fetching tricks.
Yeah...I can see your logic. Crevasse's come in off anything in my gold
scheme but the small farm...Good point.
> >Regions:
> >????
> >
> >I'm thinking of trying to squeeze in a Sorrow's path or two, and a Golden
> >Sun Plain if I can get one somehow...
> >
> >< >such as Fortresses or GSP/Sorrow's Path. Has anyone ever tried playing
> >Ancient Sages or Historians? Comments?>>
>
> Ancient Sages & Historians -- bleh. Worthless duel support. Put in GSP if
> you can get it, Sorrow's Paths or more personalities (yuyake!) if you can't.
Yeah. I've become more and more minimalist in my duel support ideals
lately. At first, I was gung ho for more Bend Like a reed and
tetsubos...then the reactions started dropping...then the tetsubos.
Although someday I'm still intrigued to try out the interplay of Ancient
Sages and Gambling houses...just not in a tournament deck.
> ><<3x For The Empire/Iaijutsu Art**
> >
> >I'm Experimenting with newer duelling ideas...I'd like to try using For
> >The Empire, especially since it brings up my focus values up. OTOH, it's
> >conditions are VERY specific. I was thinking I'd toss a copy or 3 of Jama
> >Suru in the dynasty deck if I did, to make sure I could taint people and
> >then For the Empire them. Suru also makes the Hooded Ronin's challenge
> >unrefusable by tainting the target. Opinions? ??>>
>
> If you use For the Empire, don't stress about it. Suru will only dilute
> your deck. If you use Arts, be sure to also include Test of Honor and Force
> of Will to nuke the guys after they're dishonored.
True, true. I'll use the For The Empire in my Later Bloodspeaker Honor
Runner. :P
Test of Honor is a great card...if only I could get some affordably...
I own none, you see...
> You stress way, way too much about focus values. Just keep 'em reasonably
> high and you'll have no problem winning duels against most opponents,
> especially with Yoshi.
I suppose. I just like to try and keep my mean focus above 3. Hence, I'm
quite leery about tossing in 1 focus cards.
> ><<3x Pressure
> >I'm of mixed feelings on this card, but I think it's REALLY handy for
> >honor running duellers, and it has a decent (3) focus. I need to win
> >duels to gain honor if I want to be competitive. Then again, given the
> >duel refusal punishers, maybe I'm wrong? However, its mucho reactive
> >nature leaves me leery....>>
>
> I don't have mixed feelings: Drop it. If you see a ton of Kuro Sensei
> users, just use Yasu in the Dynasty. Otherwise, Test of Honor (kills just
> as well as Pressure+Duel) or Evil Portents (a bit pricy) are straight-up
> better.
On my budget, even 3x Test of Honor is a bit pricey. Well, considering I
just spent a fair amount on some things for this deck (12th Black Scroll,
for example).
> >3x Force of Will
>
> Gooood. My favorite card in the game.
I'd have to say my favorite is Superior Tactics. :P
Though, after playing around with PK a bit, Kolat Assassin is fun too.
> > >>3x Imperial Edicts
> >I like this card...versatile, and killer focus. Only downside is the part
> >about discarding the favor. Which I plan on controlling, so I think it's
> >OK. Only thing is, right now it's my only defense, I think I could use
> >more...<<
>
> Agreed. Keep it simple -- Block Supply Lines, In Search of the Future, or
> some other high-focus defense.
I'm thinking of swaping in BSL, and Swapping Edicts out for Sun in Shadow.
Then I have a coutner for nasty Kihos, and BSL should be tidy. Plus I can
save my favor for send-homes and honor protection.
> >1x Ring of Air
> >
> >I only included the 3 I figured I could play easily, and barring playing,
> >they all have 4 focus. RoV+Gennai is a wonderful thing, methinks.
>
> RoA might be kinda hard to get out.
Using Gennai and Yoshi all the time, and likely popping WtW and FoW or
even Wind's truth? I don't really think _that_ hard. I make heavy use of
the Shugenja in my decks.
> ><<3x Superior Tactics
> >
> >My only real battle card, which worries me. I'm seeing a hole in my
> >defenses against speed military style decks...>>
>
> Yuyake helps a ton, as would BSL.
Both are presently going to be added.
> > >>1x Bitter
> >1x Judgement
> >1x Mirumoto Wakizashi
> >1x The 12th Black Scroll
> >
> >The first two will let me kill any poor sod who gets dishonored, the third
> >gives me honor and a handy defensive abilty. The last is the pen-ultimate
> >Tac-Nuke. All great focus, too!>>
>
> If you have any horde players around, drop the Wakizashi, put in the Golden
> Obi. It's a lot stronger than it first looks, and with it Daini or Mio can
> take on a whole horde army.
I don't honestly know what I'm up against. My local local scene doesn't
see much horde(only when one of the suitcase collectors gets bored of his
current play deck). OTOH, some horde players may turn up for an event this
size...
> > >>3x Lessons of Honor
> >The More I read this card, the more I like it. It helps my victory while
> >hindering my opponent in many cases...focus is only 2, but I think it
> >still warrants inclusion.>>
>
> Do you have enough guys to bow and use it?
After tossing in a few Yuyake's for defense, I think I will.
> >1x Sensei
> >
> >That's 38 cards...here's what I'm "thinking" of including:
> >
> >3x Secrets on the Wind
> >To dishonor people so I can mow them down with Judgement/Bitter
>
> Drop the number to 2, but put 'em in. The PK engine they creat with
> Judgement, Bitter, FoW, and Test of Honor is incredible. At the sword
> tournament this weekend in VA, I used them and Sagoten to gain 43 honor in
> 6 turns, and made my Phoenix opponent lose 24 honor, knocking them back
> from 40 4 times (of course, they had a Pekkle in play, and I sent 'em a His
> Most Favored honor loss, but, hey, they used the favor to prevent half my
> losses anyway).
Well, my PK engine has only the first 3 components. :P
Only thing is, more PK I do, the less honor I earn...at the rate I'm
going, I might as well swap in Kolat Assassins...
> > >>I'm thinking my deck might have a SERIOUS weakness against speed military
> >and the like...what do you all think? Especially those who've played
> >similar decks at tournies... Or would my out of-battle PK engine
> >compensate? Those with experience, please enlighten me.
> >Thanks a lot, and I hope I can do well with everyone's help.>>
>
> The PK-engine usually doesn't kick in until turn 4 or 5. You're going to
> lose against a good FORD 9 times out of 10, even with more defense, but you
> need some more defense against other speed-military.
That's how I figured. Though from what I hear, FORD is brutal all around
if well designed and well played.
Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
From mazinman at yahoo.com Wed Feb 14 20:19:18 2001
From: mazinman at yahoo.com (David Rodriguez)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01 tourney!
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20010215041918.18080.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
SH: Iron Mountain
Sensei: ??
I love Uona Sensei. It really helped me out to get the
card I needed many times. Losing Walking the Way
doesn't really hurt me cause I like Banish all Shadows
much better. Even without Banish I like Uona. Gennai
and the Favor are usually enough for me when it comes
to card drawing.
Dynasty Deck:
=============
Events:
1x Imperial Gift
1x Inheritance
1x Birth of the Sword
1x Test of Stone
The obvious choice I would think of for the four event
instead of Test of Stone would be Emperor's Peace.
Also to be considered would be C. Festival.
Personalities:
3x Togashi Shinseken
3x Agasha Gennai
3x Togashi Yoshi
3x Togashi Mio
3x Mirumoto Daini
1x The Hooded Ronin
1x Togashi Hoshi EXP 2
I agree about having Yuyake. I actually have been
using him instead of Daini lately. Tamori Chosai is
also a very good card. I usually perfer not to use the
big guys. My current dueling deck has no one over 7
gold cost. I find big people like Hoshi in dueling
decks unneccesary cause a cheap 4 chi personality like
Daini or Chosai + Yoshi can pretty much take anything
down. Oh yeah, almost forgot. Kitsuki Yasu is the man.
Try and put 2 if you have him. I would much rather
have him then the Ronin and Hoshi. The "you must duel"
ability is very good.
Holdings:
3x Gold Mine
3x Jade Works
3x Small Farm
3x Merchant Caravan
2x Sanctified Temple
1x Charter of the Dragon Clan
2x Hiruma Dojo
Gee, usually I only have 14 or 15 and I do alright.
Then again with everyone coming out of the stronghold
for me I don't need much gold. :)
Regions:
????
If you can get a Golden Sun Plains it should be a
definate. Mystic Ground is also very good as it can
completely stop a last minute attack.
"Right now I'm at 38 cards, waiting to figure out if I
add various
things,
such as Fortresses or GSP/Sorrow's Path. Has anyone
ever tried playing
Ancient Sages or Historians? Comments?"
I've tried but they never really added much to my
deck.
I suggest you don't use them.
FATE DECK:
==========
3x Iaijutsu Duel
3x Iaijutsu Challenge
3x For The Empire/Iaijutsu Art**
I always use C1@T and never have any problems. Uona
Sensei usually helps me keep it away from any duels. 3
1 focus cards in your deck won't hurt you. However I
would not go to 6. Iaijutsu Duel, Challenge, and C1&T
are my usual duels in my duelign decks.
3x Pressure
I think Kitsuki Yasu is a better option. I would
rather a personality do the effect than take up
valuable space in my Fate Deck.
3x Force of Will
3x Walking the Way
3x The Wind's Truth
I have found that Hitsu-Do is a very, very good card,
especially if you have 12 shugenja in your deck like
me. Chosai is especially good. My current favorite
trick is to first duel someone with a shugenja and use
Yoshit o pump them up then Hitsu-Do and kill a huge
personality.
3x Imperial Edicts
I love this card. Drove a Monk player crazy with it as
I kept messing with him ring manipulation. Good for
canceling Wind's Truth too. Sometimes the PS bonus
will save your providence when the favor couldn't.
1x Ring of Void
1x Ring of Earth
1x Ring of Air
Void and Earth are standard for me. Usually I don't
use Air but it is still ok to have.
3x Superior Tactics
Only battle card? Have you forgotten the beauty that
is Iaijitsu Duel? :) Use Block Supply Lines, it is
very useful.
1x Bitter
1x Judgement
1x Mirumoto Wakizashi
1x The 12th Black Scroll
For cool points I also like to use Honerable in
addition to the other two. :)
3x Lessons of Honor
If your really worried about defense don't use the
card. While its effect is awesome it keep a valuable
personality bowed. A speed attacking deck usually
won't care about the 2 honor loss.
1x Sensei
"3x Secrets on the Wind
To dishonor people so I can mow them down with
Judgement/Bitter"
Not three, maybe 2.
1x Mirumoto House Guard
To get yet another battle duel...4 Focus, too!
Tis ok to put in.
1x Shiryo no Togashi
Unrefusable Challenges good...
I would rather use the House Guard.
"I'm thinking my deck might have a SERIOUS weakness
against speed
military
and the like...what do you all think? Especially
those who've played
similar decks at tournies... Or would my out
of-battle PK engine
compensate?"
My experiences has shown me that PK is not what wins
you the match, it's the intimidation factor. Usually,
if I manage to crush the first attack, my opponent
will be so worried that he will hesitate to attack. If
he does that I win.
I also found that the earliest I bring out a Shugenja
the better the likely hood that I will win. That is
why all 12 shugenja I use can come out the first
turn(well Chosai can if he gets some help).
Don't panic to lose a battle or a providence. Try to
weaken the enemy every chance you get. Hitsu-Do, C1@T,
and Iaijistu Duel are the key since all are PK which
are free and cause your opponent to think twice about
attacking.
Finally, if your really worried about speed, then just
speed up yourself. And a couple extra events, remove
your expensive personalities for cheap ones, etc.
Hope I was able to be of some help.
-Shujyo
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From redlance at corplink.com.au Tue Feb 13 18:42:39 2001
From: redlance at corplink.com.au (William Amadei)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010214194618.00acceb0@mail.gmu.edu>
Message-ID: <000501c09590$8a6862e0$d28ba8ca@marvin-robot>
you may have missed this
> > > Senseis (1)
> > > Otomo Sensei
>
> > > Crane Tattoo x3
>
This combination doesn't work. With Otomo Sensei, cards that would go to
the discard pile are discarded from play...hence a crane tattoo cannot bring
you back.
Great Tattoo, good Sensei...not a good combination though...
From Daryl.Gubler at med.va.gov Thu Feb 15 06:18:18 2001
From: Daryl.Gubler at med.va.gov (Daryl.Gubler@med.va.gov)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
Message-ID:
> At 03:28 PM 2/14/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >Dragon Tattooed Devastation
> >Stronghold: Iron Mountain
> >
> >Dynasty (40 cards)
> > > Hitomi Reju xp. (0/6/1)
>
> Reju's stats aren't good enough to warrant inclusion.
True, but he's a 6 gold dragon clan personality.
> > > Holdings (9)
> > >
> > > Black Market x3
>
> Corrupt Gold Mines are far superior, even if they are, well, Corrupt.
>
> A gold mine or two might also be good, 'cause it can bring some
> personalities out with a single holding.
The point of BMs is free, non-corrupt gold. I'm not worried about the honor
hit, but I'm an HDM, so no CGMs. Not to mention that the deck is almost a
one moving part deck.
> > > Unexpected Allies
> UA is iffy, but you do have lots of personalities...
> > >Fate (40)
> > > Senseis (1)
> > > Otomo Sensei
> Kaede is prolly better, as it allows you to dump your fate hand and
> immediately fill it up again. You could run both... or use Kyuden Hitomi.
Watchu' talkin' 'bout Willis???
Though someone else pointed out that I couldn't use Otomo and Crane Tat, so
that puts Otomo sensei out.
> > > Actions (39)
> > > Arrowroot Tattoo x3
> Not worth including 3. Not very useful for anything but the "Tattoo" on
> senai -- Feign Death is far, far superior.
I'll agree...Hadn't thought of Feign Death
> > > Crane Tattoo x3
> Same here. They don't directly contribute towards your goal: taking
> provinces. In fact, they sometimes hinder it, by keeping you from
> targetting your own guys with force bonuses.
Crane Tatts in my deck have one real place to go, on a Dragon Tattooed
Nakuso, for the Walking Bomb is a scary, scary thing...
Though you have a point, I'll probably kick it back to 2
> > Crow Tattoo x3
> Very little use. Probably no more than two.
Too many Phoenix, so few Crow Tattoos. Crow Tatt rocks in tournament, its a
force bonus for Senai and it keeps those nasty, nasty Phoenix away.
> Potential replacements: Berserkers (A must)
Mabey...
> Tattooed Men
After checking Legendary Search Engine, I gotta agree, I originally thought
they were much more expensive.
> Bandit Gang
Mabey, But I don't like continual cost cards
> Light Infantry (Or other holding)
Not with some of the other suggestions on this list
> Flee the Darkness (you have the Shugenja)
Possible, It could also replace my Crow Tatts
> The Great Silence (Tattoos become printed on your guys)
Not a bad idea either...
> Kitsuki Iyoku
Hitomi Ikazuchi
Dragon Clan Barbarian Monk
From eblend at senet.com.au Sat Feb 17 01:01:50 2001
From: eblend at senet.com.au (Mirumoto Kojiro)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:41 2003
Subject: The Story: Debts
References:
Message-ID: <000901c09821$03f36780$e83dfea9@gujagi>
Mirumoto Akihiro-san,
thankyou for including me in your most
interesting story. I had one planned a story of my own, but it never came to
be. Anyway, I must say I liked it. The only thing I can say (and I say this
purely for amusement) is that Kojiro has some sort of kharmic unbalance
regarding horses. I believe my GM modelled it after the relationship bteween
the little dragon in Mulan and the horse. Regardless, Kojiro will do his
duty. Thanks again, and keep up the good work!
Mirumoto Kojiro
Honourable Dragon Clan Samurai *May not gain the Cavalry trait.
> Mirumoto Kojiro stepped from behind several of the higher cast samurai.
He
> bowed deeply and spoke without standing up. "My lord, The Unicorn Daimyo
> wishes to remain neutral for the time being, but they he would entertain
> agreements of trade with us. Having permission from him I spoke to the
> Shinjo Daimyo on the second matter and he has agreed to our offer to
> purchase some of their stallions."
From frostylad at excite.com Fri Feb 16 06:50:28 2001
From: frostylad at excite.com (Jeff T.)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
Message-ID: <27411388.982335028837.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com>
I've become less of a fan of flat-out, must-win-by-turn-3 attack decks, but
if you like 'em, go for it. I'll help as best I can.
I'll assume this is Jade-ex.
> Dragon Tattooed Devastation
> Stronghold: Iron Mountain
>
> Dynasty (40 cards)
> Personalities (28)
> Hitomi Iyojin x3 (-/5/1)
> Hitomi Akuai x3 (-/6/0)
> Hitomi Kazaq x3 (-/6/0)
> Hitomi Dajan x3 (0/6/1)
> Hitomi Nakuso x3 (-/5/1)
> Hitomi Kobai x3 (-/4/1)
> Togashi Senai x3 (0/5/2)
> Agasha Gennai x3 (0/6/2)
> Mirumoto Daini x3 (-/5/3)
Well, I'm a Daini-hater, so of course I recommend Shinseken instead. Plus,
with your gold scheme, you're more likely to actually gain honor with Shinny
because your box is the majority of your gold production. I'm sure
half-a-dozen people will now reply and defend Daini, but I promise to hate
him regardless. :)
> Hitomi Reju xp. (0/6/1)
Reju ain't all that in military. Tashima would be much better.
> Holdings (9)
> Black Market x3
> Small Farms x3
> Merchant Caravan x3
>
> Events (3)
> Inheritance
> Troll Raiders
> Unexpected Allies
Good event selection.
If you have a Golden Sun Plain, it'd be really, really good.
> Fate (40)
> Senseis (1)
> Otomo Sensei
?
Kaede would be much better. Kisada next.
Alternately, Hantei, to name In Search of the Future every time, because
it'd reduce this deck to a shriveling husk of what it once was. ;)
> Actions (39)
> Arrowroot Tattoo x3
> Crane Tattoo x3
> Dragon Tattoo x3
> Dragonfly Tattoo x3
> Mountain Tattoo x3
> Crow Tattoo x3
> Hummingbird Tattoo x3
> Crab Tattoo x3
I think you're a little heavy on the tattoos. You could probably get away
with this in 30/30, where you're almost assured of an early Senai, but in
40/40, you may not see one until turn 5 or 6, when it'd be too late.
I'd recommend cutting the Crows, Crabs, Arrowroots, and Cranes. If you're
really stuck on Nakuso + Crane, try 2 Cranes instead of 3. If you still
want more tats, Centipede really is one of the best. As for Hummingbird,
I've found it's better to use 2 of them with 3 Rallying Cries. You'll be
able to keep your guys battle-ready almost always.
> Charge x3
> Destiny Has No Secrets x3
> Frenzy x3
> Tattoo Madness x3
> Superior Tactics x3
Hm. Warriors of the Great Climb would be a superb addition (just doesn't
jive with Akuai or Kazaq). I'd also recommend Kitsuki Kaagi's Journal to
any military deck. If you're up for Poisoned Weapon, Kobai becomes a
killer of any opponent with 3 chi or less. Flee the Darkness could be
quite valuable as well; I usually pack 2.
You also want the Ring of the Void. I mean, you REALLY want Ring of the
Void.
-Hitomi Jeftuq
Dragon Clan Naga
"We will not aid you. You have to prove yourself worthy before you can ask
for the favors our father once claimed." -Moto Tsume
"Then get out of my way." -Hitomi
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From mirumoto_ryudo at hotmail.com Fri Feb 16 12:44:00 2001
From: mirumoto_ryudo at hotmail.com (Steven LaFollette)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Référence: Re: Honnorable Dagon Tactician, version 1.2
Message-ID:
>From: "Bruno BALBASTRE"
>Reply-To: dragon@michonline.com
>To: dragon@michonline.com
>Subject: Référence: Re: Honnorable Dagon Tactician, version 1.2
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:12:12 +0100
>
Just a comment....
Tactical Maneuvers is one of the best Tactician cards in the game. If you
have it, I would use it.
>Hitomi Humus has suggested some modifications :
> >Remove :
> >Gaisha assassins ?
>I could but I prefer keep this against the shoju senseï, with
>Togashi Yoshi it is difficult to loose...
>
> >Add :
> >Walking the Way ?
>Why not, I do not see which cards removed but claerly it could be
>useful.
>
>White shore plains ?
>If only I have more than one, it would be in my deck...
>
>Corrputed gold mine ?
>Not really necessary, I'd rather keep my clan clean... lol
>
>Kitsuki Jitsuma
>Dragon clan Imperial Magistrate*Tactician*Samouraï
>
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From mirumoto_ryudo at hotmail.com Fri Feb 16 12:55:28 2001
From: mirumoto_ryudo at hotmail.com (Steven LaFollette)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01 tourney!
Message-ID:
>From: Loki
>Reply-To: dragon@michonline.com
>To: "'dragon@michonline.com'"
>Subject: Dragon Dueller Needs Advice & Deck Review for 2/25/01 tourney!
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:37:42 -0500 (EST)
>
>Brothers,
> Greetings. I am planning in participating in Boston's L5R Grand Prix
>weekend tournament on the 25th. I will be playing my favored clan. the
>Dragon. The problem is, I've never been to a tournament before. I could
>use some advice for play tips against various styles. I'm also posting a
>theoretical decklist here, to see what feedback I can get.
>
>Well, I'll cut straight to the chase, that being the decklist.
>Feedback appreciated, the more detailed the better.
>(I Will Try)
>SH: Iron Mountain
>Sensei: ??
>
>I've been having the damndest time choosing a sensei. Hantei is great for
>metagame, but I really fear my opponent packing a Hantei as well and
>losing 2 of my best cards possibly. Toshimoko is good and all, but only
>works for the dwindling % of my deck that is Samurai(Trust me, if you want
>to duel and win no matter what, it would be best to play Toshimoko.
>Besides, one card isn't going to break your deck, and I have seen very few
>Hantei sensei lately), and moreover
>immediately tips off my opponent as to what he should Hantei if he plays
>that sensei. I've been thinking of experimenting with Uona, save that it
>completely destroys my ability to search my deck for cards. Kaede is also
>out of the question, as I'm angling for an honor victory.
>Comments?
>
>Dynasty Deck:
>=============
>Events:
>1x Imperial Gift
>1x Inheritance
>1x Birth of the Sword
>1x Test of Stone
>
>I consider the first two a given in a tournament deck, and the third is
>excellent. Test of stone is there to give me one more duel I don't need
>to burn fate cards for.
>I've also considered packing Wisdom Gained and/or Revering the Past (as I
>like my Shiryo no Togashi), but I'm not sure how well they'd help the deck
>and if they'd be worth the space.
>
>Personalities:
>3x Togashi Shinseken (Greatest card.)
>3x Agasha Gennai
>3x Togashi Yoshi
>3x Togashi Mio (Are you going to be attacking?)(Try Kitsuki Yasu instead.)
>3x Mirumoto Daini
>1x The Hooded Ronin
>1x Togashi Hoshi EXP 2 (Hoshi is real expensive. Kitsuki Mizuochi should
>serve well, he is an innate dueler and he locks up personalities.)
>
>Well, my comments...I need cheap shugenja for Wind's Truth and the spells
>I'm packing, so I think 3 Shinseken's are necessary (BTW-anyone got any?
>I don't... could use another Mio too...). Gennai is there for his obscene
>fate cylcing power, and
>Yoshi is the obvious Deulling enhancer. I chose Togashi Mio over some of
>the other Samurai available since I think that his reaction makes him VERY
>useful for defense in a dueller, since if I want to start some duels,
>very often my opponent will send my people home. Having one more chance
>to start one will make this deck more robust, I think. Daini is self
>explanatory, he's Daini. I've decided to try and include a few duel
>starters, so I tossed in the Hooded Ronin, his duelling power seems like a
>wonderful thing (BTW-anybody play with him? How'd he work out?),
>especially since I'm gonna be going for honor victories-now I just need
>to go get a copy of him. Togashi Hoshi is
>the heavy hitter, the guy who hopefully comes out to play when the chips
>are down.
>
>Holdings:
>3x Gold Mine
>3x Jade Works
>3x Small Farm
>3x Merchant Caravan
>2x Sanctified Temple
>1x Charter of the Dragon Clan
>2x Hiruma Dojo
>
>17 gold producers...I tend to favor them heavily, as I like to have lots
>of gold to spend on full-cost personalities and spells. BTW-anyone have
>some Hiruma
>Dojo's they could donate?. I'm considering also including a Fortress of
>the Dragonfly or three...
>
>Regions:
>????
>
>I'm thinking of trying to squeeze in a Sorrow's path or two, and a Golden
>Sun Plain if I can get one somehow...
>
>Right now I'm at 38 cards, waiting to figure out if I add various things,
>such as Fortresses or GSP/Sorrow's Path. Has anyone ever tried playing
>Ancient Sages or Historians? Comments?(Fortess of the Dragonfly is the
>only thing that allows us to compete with Cranes. USE IT!)
>
>
>FATE DECK:
>==========
>3x Iaijutsu Duel
>3x Iaijutsu Challenge
>3x For The Empire/Iaijutsu Art**
>
>I'm Experimenting with newer duelling ideas...I'd like to try using For
>The Empire, especially since it brings up my focus values up. OTOH, it's
>conditions are VERY specific. I was thinking I'd toss a copy or 3 of Jama
>Suru in the dynasty deck if I did, to make sure I could taint people and
>then For the Empire them. Suru also makes the Hooded Ronin's challenge
>unrefusable by tainting the target. Opinions?
>The only thing I'm concerned about is Iai duel being my only in-battle
>fate-card based duel...perhaps I should consider C1@aT? But it's focus is
>so low...
>
>3x Pressure
>I'm of mixed feelings on this card, but I think it's REALLY handy for
>honor running duellers, and it has a decent (3) focus. I need to win
>duels to gain honor if I want to be competitive. Then again, given the
>duel refusal punishers, maybe I'm wrong? However, its mucho reactive
>nature leaves me leery....(Forget it. Pack Kitsuki Yasu or Kaagi instead.
>Bowing SH isn't worth it.)
>
>3x Force of Will
>3x Walking the Way
>3x The Wind's Truth
>FoW can kill any dishonored or really dishonorable personality..what more
>needs be said? Killer focus value too. Just the fact I have them in the
>deck makes me think I should pack Iai art instead of For The Empire...
>Walking the Way is there, of course, to fetch all that good stuff like the
>ring of void and the unique items. Or even a duel if my hand is junk.
>And what Honor deck worth it's salt wouldn't pack TWT?
>
>3x Imperial Edicts
>I like this card...versatile, and killer focus. Only downside is the part
>about discarding the favor. Which I plan on controlling, so I think it's
>OK. Only thing is, right now it's my only defense, I think I could use
>more...
>
>1x Ring of Void
>1x Ring of Earth
>1x Ring of Air (Leave this out. Gennai doesn't count toward it)
>
>I only included the 3 I figured I could play easily, and barring playing,
>they all have 4 focus. RoV+Gennai is a wonderful thing, methinks.
>
>3x Superior Tactics
>
>My only real battle card, which worries me. I'm seeing a hole in my
>defenses against speed military style decks...(Speaking of which, I would
>at LEAST pack Entrapping Terrain. I don't care if the focus is one, if
>you're dead, it doesn't matter how many duels you win. BSL is good too.)
>
>1x Bitter
>1x Judgement (Forget this one. The other is quite useful)
>1x Mirumoto Wakizashi
>1x The 12th Black Scroll
>
>The first two will let me kill any poor sod who gets dishonored, the third
>gives me honor and a handy defensive abilty. The last is the pen-ultimate
>Tac-Nuke. All great focus, too!
>
>3x Lessons of Honor (Great card....I guess. Unless playing a Toshimoko
>player eg. Crane or Dragon.) The More I read this card, the more I like it.
> It helps my victory while
>hindering my opponent in many cases...focus is only 2, but I think it
>still warrants inclusion.
>
>1x Sensei
>
>That's 38 cards...here's what I'm "thinking" of including:
>
>3x Secrets on the Wind(Don't rely on two card combos. They seldom show when
>you really need them)
>To dishonor people so I can mow them down with Judgement/Bitter
>1x Mirumoto House Guard
>To get yet another battle duel...4 Focus, too!
>1x Shiryo no Togashi
>Unrefusable Challenges good...
>
>Obviously I can't toss in ALL that. Well, I gues I could, since I don't
>count the sensei as part of my 40. That would put me at 42 if I did.
>
>I'm thinking my deck might have a SERIOUS weakness against speed military
>and the like...what do you all think? Especially those who've played
>similar decks at tournies... Or would my out of-battle PK engine
>compensate? Those with experience, please enlighten me.
>Thanks a lot, and I hope I can do well with everyone's help.
>
>Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
>Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
>
>Sorry if I was harsh in any way in that response. Good Luck, brother.
Mirumoto Ryudo
Dragon Clan Samurai. Togashi's Secretary. *Male*.
Can have 2 weapons.
"I promise to reorganize the history of Rokugan tomorrow, Togashi. I really
mean it this time!"
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From loki at bu.edu Fri Feb 16 16:33:23 2001
From: loki at bu.edu (Loki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Gubler, Daryl L. wrote:
Well, I've designed a tattooed blitz deck or two myself, so let me see
what I can do for you...
> Dragon Tattooed Devastation
> Stronghold: Iron Mountain
No Sensei? I might recommend Kisada, as it can sometimes force your
opponent to build another turn if he's playing military, allowing you to
neglect defense in favor of more offense.
> Dynasty (40 cards)
> Personalities (28)
> Hitomi Iyojin x3 (-/5/1)
> Hitomi Akuai x3 (-/6/0)
> Hitomi Kazaq x3 (-/6/0)
> Hitomi Dajan x3 (0/6/1)
As I say below, consider cutting Dajan. For starters, as is, you have no
rings to pump him, and secondly, his 0 HR will be problematic with your
use of Black Markets.
> Hitomi Nakuso x3 (-/5/1)
> Hitomi Kobai x3 (-/4/1)
> Togashi Senai x3 (0/5/2)
Per my commentary below, you may want to consider cutting him.
> Agasha Gennai x3 (0/6/2)
Great personality, bad HR...see below
> Mirumoto Daini x3 (-/5/3)
> Hitomi Reju xp. (0/6/1)
For his cost, Reju adds very little to a military deck. Consider the 1
gold more expensive and infinitely more militarily useful Hitomi Tashima.
Can't spit on a 3/3 0/7/1(or is it 0?) Cav with a built in sneak for
almost any battle he's at (or, ANY battle, if your deck is designed
right).
> Holdings (9)
> Black Market x3
> Small Farms x3
> Merchant Caravan x3
Free gold is good and all, but one Plauge of Locusts and your entire gold
scheme will be completely gone. Also, corrupt gold can very quickly
eliminate your ability to bring out any of your 0 HR personalities.. a bad
draw will knock out Dajan, Gennai, Senai, and Reju from the people you
listed. That's a significant (10 card) chunk of what you're fielding. My
advice would be to cut the 0 HR people, since 1/3 of your gold is based on
honor loss. With only 3 personalities with PH above 1, and two of them
unplayable below 0 honor, you'd have a hard time keeping your honor high
enough initially to field them after bringing out a holding or two.
Alternately, consider Corrupt Gold Mines, they're far more efficient.
Also, some actual non-free gold producers would help a lot. Gold Mines,
for example. I run gold heavy decks, but that's since I don't like
sicarding half of everything that comes up from not having gold to pay for
it. YMMV, but 9 seems light, especially with the amount these holdings
put out.
Alternately, you may want to consider tossing corrupt gold in favor of
regular gold. Speed attack can work fairly well that way. Me, I just
play all out naughtiness.
> Events (3)
> Inheritance
> Troll Raiders
> Unexpected Allies
UA...well, I don't like it, but then, my decks aren't usually 70%
personalities either. The Imperial favor can be a real pain in the
military butt...and there's almost no way you'll have it unless you
play a corrupt or Shadowlands deck as your foe...got any copies of
Kachiko's Kiss? Removes it quite tidily, especially with Akuai.
> Fate (40)
> Senseis (1)
> Otomo Sensei
Aaah. Well, I don't know that Otomo sensei will be so great for you.
Like I said, I'd recommend Kisada or something similar.
> Actions (39)
> Arrowroot Tattoo x3
> Crane Tattoo x3
> Dragon Tattoo x3
> Dragonfly Tattoo x3
> Mountain Tattoo x3
> Crow Tattoo x3
> Hummingbird Tattoo x3
> Crab Tattoo x3
> Charge x3
> Destiny Has No Secrets x3
> Frenzy x3
> Tattoo Madness x3
> Superior Tactics x3
My god that's a whole lot of tattoos. I'm guessing you're going for
huge Senai's with some of the extras there, but I don't know that you want
to...padding your deck with some of those won't do you much good. My
recommendation is don't make more than 15 cards tattoos. I stick with
12-15, myself. I'd keep the Dragon, Dragonfly, Mountain, Hummingbird, and
maybe one each of two of the others, and drop the rest for space. You
have lots of force boosts, but you might want to be careful of In Search
of the Future. Really can ruin a blitz attack decks's day. And play a
void ring. For the love of GOD play a void ring. The whole beauty of a
deck that's on berserker offense constantly is it blows through your hand
quickly, allowing you to play the void ring and draw more. One of the
main reasons I actually run my Tattoo fast attacker out of Kyuden
Hitomi...couldn't keep the FH high enough to toss in many shugenka, so no
WtW...instead I just used the SH. I'd say find a way to put the void ring
in, with or without WtW, though having a trick to go get it helps. Kaede
sensei? I doubt you'll be winning any honor victories.
And hey, am I the only one who plays with Terrains anymore? :P I guess
my "tech" is too old fashioned. And what, no Rallying Cry? It's
such a staple card. Rally+Accessible terrain..so much fun. ALso
just plain old Contentious Terrain can be pretty nice, and using Tashima
to drop it on your way in prevents the defender from playing any of his
own, or at least forces him to waste cards getting rid of it. Also
consider an Iai Duel or 2 or 3. Personalities with Dragon tattoos have a
habit of having 6 chi...and mowing down people in duels thanks to the good
focus values of some cards (tattoos, rallying cry, superior tactics).
Plus, they're good for Kobai. OH yes, and I must concur...Tattooed men
followers are awesome in tattooed military. Especially with Tashima.
Tashima with 2 or 3 units and deadly ground is wonderful. But
they're good in general.
Anyway, sorry if that seemed hasty or too critical, just figured I'd toss
in my 2 cents, and I'm saddly rushed now (At work on break).
Mirumoto Haknin * Dragon Clan Schemer
Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
From loki at bu.edu Fri Feb 16 16:43:58 2001
From: loki at bu.edu (Loki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Dragon Tattooed Devastation Deck for Review
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
I must beg the list's pardon for the typos in my reply on this thread, and
a minor error or two (such as listing Tashima as 0/7/0(1?) instead of a
'-' HR). Apologies.
Mirumoto Hakanin * Dragon Clan Schemer
Chief Organizer/Supporter, Togashi Angai for Emerald Champion
From baz at thedragonclan.com Sat Feb 17 00:57:44 2001
From: baz at thedragonclan.com (Hitomi Hokosaki)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Gold Legal Dragon Deck
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Been playing around with the postulated gold edition lists, just thought Id
throw a deck out for consumption.
Offensive force takes the form of Sukune with some Fires of Purity and
Biting steel support.
Duel support uses the same spells with Uso or using Ukira and Biting steel,
the weapons also provide chi boosts.
Personality denial takes the form of secrets on the wind and Judgement which
is my one weakness in this deck, Judgement is amazing but its bloodsword
status hurts everytime I think about it.
Secrets on the wind also works well with the Ki-Rin and Bitter for defense.
The two shames give a touch of dishonour which I think will be strong in
gold.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Hitomi Hokosaki
Dragon Gold Legal Deck
Dynasty (40)
Gold holdings (18)
3 Small Farms
3 Large Farms
3 Gold Mines
3 Jade Works
3 Hiruma Dojos
3 Kabuki Theatre Troubes
Personalities (18)
3 Tamori Chosai
3 Tamori Shaitung
3 Mirumoto Ukira
3 Mirumoto Uso
3 Mirumoto Sukune
Togashi Hoshi
Ki-Rin
Miya Yemi
Events (1)
Imperial Gift
Regions (3)
3 Sorrows Path
Fate (40)
Spells (11)
3 Biting Steel
3 Fires of Purity
3 Secrets on the Wind
2 Walk the Way
Weapons (4)
Judgement
Honourable
Bitter
Ancestral Sword of the Dragon
Followers (1)
Mirumoto House Gaurd
Rings (2)
Ring of Void
Ring of Earth
Actions (22)
3 In search of the Future
3 Block Supply Lines
3 Refugees
3 Come one at a time
3 Iaijutsu Duel
3 Iaijutsu Challenge
2 Counter attack
2 Shame
From smuray at nac.net Sat Feb 17 08:22:50 2001
From: smuray at nac.net (Stephen Muray)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: Murai's tale - "Nostalgia".
References: <982410029.209.25138.l10@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A8E7B2A.85F9735D@nac.net>
As Gold Edition looms around the corner, my persona of "Bayushi Murai"
is getting on in years, and since the Spirit Wars, I've been slowly
working on removing him from the scene and replacing him with his
grandson. I'll admit, he does have a chance of being named after his
grandfather, primarily because I'm that used to typing "Murai" :)
(Though the name recognition part is kinda nice too).
You'll have to forgive Murai. He's getting to be an old man in game,
and his thoughts wander. It's not exactly the "norm" in stories, and
you'll finally get to have a peek inside his head. This one's primarily
groundwork for the next chapter or three.
Here's part one of Murai's Tale, called "Nostalgia".
---
Murai's Tale - Part One - Nostalgia
-----------------------------------
Murai flexed his hand painfully. The burden of the years was getting
weighty indeed. Years earlier, at the start of the war against the
spirits, Murai left his family name behind and contemplated joining the
brotherhood of Shinsei to lighten that load, but still it was catching
up with him. At least, that was what he wanted to believe. He left his
name behind because he, like all of Rokugan, was tricked by his clan.
The way of the monks was not for Murai, he still had a duty to the
Scorpion, a duty in the courts that were his lifeblood.
"They look at me, and wait for me to stumble." Murai thought, playing
with a strand of his long white hair as he eyed the new courtiers that
had arisen during the great Spirit Wars. He could barely remember their
names, there were so many... "But age and treachery will always defeat
youth and skill."
"Still... One day I will fall, and there will be no one there to catch
me. Which one of them will replace me? Certainly not my son... He is
not even here, he fights in the armies, hoping to make a name for
himself with that wretched polearm of his. Perhaps I'll have a grandson
before I die. Before HE dies, more importantly."
"I have seen too much in this life... From the coup under Lord Shoju,
to the Lady's vengeance on the Clans... The defeat of the Dark One and
the rise of Toturi... The exile... The blood... So much blood is
everywhere. On my hands, in my mind. The guilt is almost too much to
bear. This guilt, the guilt I hide by proclaiming it my duty. A
Scorpion has no time for a conscience."
"A Scorpion with a conscience... I'd hardly think that's me, though my
hair has become as white as my mother's. Perhaps I inherited it from
her. Such a weakness could only have come from my Crane half. Or
perhaps from the years I spent among the Dragon, who insist on
questioning all things in life. Perhaps I should blame them."
"Or for once, I can accept things the way they are."
"Sometimes I wonder if everything I do is part of a greater, sinister
plan. I've found myself wondering that many nights, ever since I found
and deciphered that blasted scroll. It would have been much better to
leave that thing untouched, there are some things man was not meant to
know, and the existance of the conspiracy is one I'd have preferred to
be ignorant about." Murai scanned the court sadly. "How many of them
are in its clutches? How many are unwitting pawns? Does it matter?"
"So many new faces. My time here is ending. The courts will go to
them, to that sea of scarlet and black... It's depressing, actually.
My life's goal was to have the court and Emperor's favor controlled by
the Scorpion, and now that it has occurred, I am not happy. There was
no great political maneuvering on our part... The Crane... just left.
Went off to war. Not all of them, of course..." Murai glanced at some
of the young Crane ladies appreciatively as his last thought faded.
"War. War is good for the land. It gives young samurai a place to
prove their glory and get themselves killed. Many don't understand
that. It gives us something to do." Smiling, Murai continued his
thought. "Let us always be so bored that we kill each other for lack of
anything better to do. War is a blessing."
"I must have a grandson before I can be at peace and depart this world.
I must find a bride for my son, Bayushi Arikazu, Gunso in the Scorpion
Armies. I have spent many years among the Dragon, and a marriage would
draw our clans even closer together, though I have always felt close to
the Crane. Let us see what can be arranged..."
From ericcartier13 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 18 16:36:11 2001
From: ericcartier13 at yahoo.com (Eric Carter)
Date: Sun May 11 20:37:42 2003
Subject: to jimmy scott
Message-ID: <20010219003611.15959.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com>
the reason why you have not got the cards is because it got sent back to me, i will send it again
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